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Han de Bruijn  
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 More options Feb 8 2006, 3:57 pm
Newsgroups: sci.math
From: Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL>
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:57:47 +0100
Local: Wed, Feb 8 2006 3:57 pm
Subject: My old friend the SINC function
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http://groups.google.nl/group/sci.math/msg/08dff005bdbdeb07?hl=en&

Randy Poe writes:

 > Real, physical quantites have uncertainties. That is
 > one of the fundamental properties of physics. And it
 > isn't just due to quantum considerations. Take an
 > average metal bar. It has no exact length, not down
 > to the precision of an atomic width or so. There are
 > temperature fluctuations and small forces from
 > Brownian motion which will cause that bar's length
 > to fluctuate. The atoms themselves are in motion which
 > is another cause of inexactness.

As Randy describes himself, there are _fluctuations_ of all kind that
will cause x = 0, when conceived as a physical quantity, to fluctuate.
Meaning that x = 0 is actually to be _interpreted_ as x = 0 +/- delta,
where delta is the uncertainity.

But we don't need Randy's argument in order to see that there is kind
of an uncertainity in _every_ realization of the real numbers. Take a
look at the floating point quantities in a digital computer:

0.000000000000000000000000000000123597059137504570...
|----------------------------||---------------------> oo
         material                       ideal

Then, inside the computer at hand, _this_ value of x cannot possibly be
distinguished from x = 0. But suppose we buy a somewhat better computer
with "extended precision", such that:

0.000000000000000000000000000000123597059137504570...
|-------------------------------------||------------> oo
                  material                  ideal

Then suddenly the value which was supposedly equal to zero becomes just
_close_ to 0 instead. We conclude that, in the material world, a real 0
cannot be distinguished from its (supposedly very small) environment.

Now consider an old friend of mine, the function:

sinc(x) = sin(x)/x for x <> 0
         = 1        for x = 0

But NO ! We insist upon our Enduring Freedom and, as _mathematicians_,
we like to define, instead, the following:

S(x) = sin(x)/x for x <> 0
      = 2        for x = 0

So I have the question: which of the above functions, S(x) or sinc(x),
has an empirical counterpart? Is it possible that S(x) will _ever_ have
an empirical counterpart? Just answer the question, please. Yes or No.

Jean-Claude Arbaut, Jiri Lebl and Randy Poe all have been clever enough
not to give a straight answer to this simple question. Who has the guts?

Han de Bruijn


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