Geiserik schreef:
> Geiserik schreef:
> > Taking "the promissed land" in 1Nephi 18:23 as Israël, all events in
> > the BoM could be traced in classical history writing in the same year.
> > So the horrible sophisticated wars in the BoM are no more than the 3
> > Mithridatric wars between Rome and Pont. linguistic wonder Mithridates
> > 6 was Mosiah with the gift of god for tongues.
> After the pacification of the east by Pompey, there was for two
> centuries a stalemate in the Middle East between the Romans (Lamanites)
> and the Zoroastric Parts (Zoramites., in which was the very peacefull
> area under Cesar August, 30vC -14nC, the so called "Pax Romana". In
> this time the Parths commenced the silk route of China to Rome and the
> migrations of the Goths around the Black Sea.
> In 20vC the Roman Cesar August and the Parthean king Phraates 4 arrived
> to a "peacefull understanding" in which Rome sustained further
> expansion and the Parths returned the legion standards of Crassus and
> Marc Anthony. (see my posting Crassusin America ?)
> Helaman 6:7 And behold, there was peace in all the land, insomuch that
> the Nephites did go into whatsoever part of the land they would,
> whether among the Nephites or the Lamanites.
> 6:8 And it came to pass that the Lamanites did also go whithersoever
> they would, whether it were among the Lamanites or among the Nephites;
> and thus they did have free intercourse one with another, to abuy and
> to sell, and to get gain, according to their desire.
> After the dead of Moroni/Archelaus in the BoM there started a big
> migration to thr lands Northwards first by land and later by boats.
> Alma 63:3 And it came to pass that aMoroni died also. And thus ended
> the
> > > > thirty and sixth year of the reign of the judges.
> Helaman 6:4 And it came to pass that in the *thirty and seventh year of
> the
> > > > reign of the judges (55bC), there was a large company of men, even to the
> > > > amount of five thousand and four hundred men, with their wives and
> > > > their children, departed out of the land of Zarahemla into the land
> > > > which was anorthward.
> > > > 5 And it came to pass that Hagoth, he being an aexceedingly curious
> > > > man, therefore he went forth and built him an exceedingly large ship,
> > > > on the borders of the land bBountiful, by the land Desolation, and
> > > > launched it forth into the west sea, by the cnarrow neck which led into
> > > > the land northward.
> > > > 6 And behold, there were many of the Nephites who did enter therein
> > > > and did sail forth with much provisions, and also many women and
> > > > children; and they took their course northward. And thus ended the
> > > > thirty and seventh year.
> > > > 7 And in the thirty and eighth year, this man built aother ships. And
> > > > the first ship did also return, and many more people did enter into it;
> > > > and they also took much provisions, and set out again to the land
> > > > northward.
> > > > 8 And it came to pass that they were never heard of more. And we
> > > > suppose that they were drowned in the depths of the sea. And it came to
> > > > pass that one other ship also did sail forth; and whither she did go we
> > > > know not.
> > > > 9 And it came to pass that in this year there were many people who
> > > > went forth into the land anorthward. And thus ended the thirty and
> > > > eighth year.
> > > > 10 And it came to pass in the *thirty and ninth year of the reign of
> > > > the judges, aShiblon died also, and Corianton had gone forth to the
> > > > land northward in a ship, to carry forth provisions unto the people who
> > > > had gone forth into that land.
> So lets try how far we come with my démasqué of the BoM posted
> previously.
> Zarahemlah was in my view the northcoast of the Black Sea, between the
> Don (Sidon) and the Wolga, which would become later the Jewish empire
> of Khazaria, but here in 55bC, just after the defeat of Pontean Crimea,
> under influence of the Partheans
> Nortwards we come in Rusia and even further Norway and Gothland..
> Curious Hagoth sounds like Har or Herr Goth, posibly a Goth, who lived
> around that time in that area and were known for their fleets and
> piracy.
> The western sea is than the Black Sea and the eastern sea the Caspean
> Sea.
> Bountifull no doubt was fertile Ucrania, the breadbasket of Rusia.
> The land Desolation is a perfect name for the empty Russian steppes.
> The narrow neck than becomes the Bosporus
> The woman, children and proviand point more to an imigration than an
> invasion.
> The repeated journeys by foot and boat to the land nothwards point to a
> destination in Scandinavia, that suitable is called Norway.
> The provision of food later on by ship point to countries with insecure
> harvests and a lack of trees and wood.
> Historeans know about a disputed Gothic migration from the Black Sea
> nothwards 100bC.
So please note, that the BoM give here an eyewitness report of the, up
till now just assumed northwards migration of the Goths
However there is no lack of food nor wood in Scandinavia, so we have to
look for another Northern European country without forrests and a
reputation of famine and a name related to Goths and than we come to
Ireland, where the Scoti came from.
Strange enough Ireland has a written history of invasions from out the
Black Sea.
The famous Irish book of Leinster, the book of Lecan and the bookof
Ballymote have big parts of the very old cronic:"Lebor Gabala Erenn",
the Book of Invasions. in 1630 all fragments were bundled in one book.
The Lebor Gabala gives a sumary of the history of the world from Adam
till Christ and continues to relate the different invasions or
migrations, populating Ireland.
The first was from Greece under Parthalon, whose people died in a
plague.
Special Parthalon deserves our attention, because in my démasqé, the
BoM is situated around the Black Sea, which was under Parthean rule
around 100bC.
Partalons men all died in a plaque, what we find in Alma 63:8, where
people worry about a naufrage Historical Parthalon had three druids
with him: Intellect, Knowledge and Inquiry.
Accepting that Parthalon was a Parth, the druïds could have been
Parthean magicians, like Hagoth in Alma 63:5, where he is called a
curious man.
So the curious man Hagoth of the BoM could have been the same person as
the Irish druïd from the Irish Book of Invasions.
Resuming, we have a special case of two independant books, written in
different times in countries, who confirm each other
In the BoM one curious Hagoth organises in 100bC out of a Pathean ruled
area around the Black Sea, emigrations by ship to a northern
déforrested feminised country and never returns.
However another ship came back and departed again with proviand.
In the Book of Invasions arrives an Imigrant from Greece, called
Parthalon, with a druïd, who is called Inquiry and died in a plague.
There was another invasion under Nemid from Scythia whose son went back
to Greece and even returned to Ireland with proviand.
A recent article in American Geografic said, that modern historeans has
confirmed the Book of Invasions and proved the Nemids to be Thracians.
Earlier I demasqued the people of Nephi as well as Thracians.
> > > Lebor Gabala The Book of Invasions
> > > The Book of Invasions form the major part of the Mythological Cycle.
> > > The Book of Invasions was supposed to contain the (fictional) history
> > > of Ireland. The cycle was written in the book titled Leabhar Gabhála
> > > or Lebor Gabala Erren - the "Book of Conquests" or the "Book of
> > > Invasions of Ireland". It was the stories of successive invasions and
> > > settlement of the Celtic people on Ireland. Five or six different
> > > people settled on the Isle.
> > > The other main source come from Cath Maige Tuired (Second Battle of Mag
> > > Tuired (Moytura)), which was mainly centred on the Tuatha Dé Danann.
> > > The main interests come from the race of Irish deities known as the
> > > Tuatha Dé Danann. They were supplanted by the Milesians, the last
> > > group of invaders, who became the ancestors of the modern Irish people.
> > > Early Settlements
> > > Children of Danu
> > > Genealogy:
> > > Children of Danu
> > > Milesians
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